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PostPosted: Mon Jul 30, 2007 11:26 pm    Post subject: SEARCHING -- HELP !! Reply with quote

think How does one go about working backwards in genealogy? For example: Francesco Nicolini (born 25 decembre, 1895/96) in Palermo or nearby. He was a tailor and migrated to the USA in 1915. NEED to find out if he actually became naturalizsed or just filed the petition.
Also - Rosa Sparacino (born 1897-99) in Sicily also. She was the daughter of Francesco Sparacino and Francesca (? ) Lipari. Other children were; Pasquale, Francesco, Gaetano and Grozia. The family migrated to the USA in 1902. HOW do I find the names of Francesco (Nicolini ) father? And the parents of Francesco (Sparacino ) and Francesca (Lipari) ?? Is there anyway to find all of the above individuals actual place of birth??

Please Help. I have been referred to Ancestry.com, but I cannot afford it.

Molte grazie. Thank you.
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 31, 2007 12:37 am    Post subject: Re: SEARCHING -- HELP !! Reply with quote

Is this your Francesco?

1920 United States Federal Census
about Frank Nicolini
Name: Frank Nicolini
Home in 1920: New Orleans Ward 11, Orleans, Louisiana
Age: 23 years
Estimated birth year: abt 1897
Birthplace: Italy
Relation to Head of House: Head
Spouse's name: Rosa
Father's Birth Place: Italy
Mother's Birth Place: Italy
Marital Status: Married
Race: White
Sex: Male
Home owned: Rent
Year of Immigration: 1915
Able to read: Yes
Able to Write: Yes
Image: 1235
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
Frank Nicolini 23
Rosa Nicolini 20
Josephine Nicolini 8/12

Source Citation: Year: 1920;Census Place: New Orleans Ward 11, Orleans, Louisiana; Roll: T625_622; Page: 7A; Enumeration District: 184; Image: 1235.

1920 Census

If so it says he Naturalized in 1918..

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 31, 2007 12:44 am    Post subject: Re: SEARCHING -- HELP !! Reply with quote

He married in the US..


Name: Francisco Nicolini
Spouse: Rosa Sparanino
Age: 22
Age: 24
Gender: M
Marriage Date: 19 Jun 1918
Volume: 41
Page: 219

Looks like he died young..

New Orleans, Louisiana Death Records Index, 1804-1949
about Frank Nicolini
Name: Frank Nicolini
Age: 49
Death Date: Apr 1946
Page: 2628
Volume: 222

Lets see if we can find the 1930 Census for more clues..

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 31, 2007 12:53 am    Post subject: Re: SEARCHING -- HELP !! Reply with quote

World War I Draft Registration Cards, 1917-1918

Name: Frank Nicolini
City: New Orleans
County: Orleans
State: Louisiana
Birthplace: Italy
Birth Date: 25 Dec 1895
Race: Caucasian (White)
Roll: 1684923
DraftBoard: 10


Tailor
Born in Palermo, ITALY

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 31, 2007 1:06 am    Post subject: Re: SEARCHING -- HELP !! Reply with quote

1930 United States Federal Census

Name: Frank Nickolino
Home in 1930: New Orleans, Orleans, Louisiana
Age: 31
Estimated birth year: abt 1899
Birthplace: Italy
Relation to Head of House: Head
Spouse's name: Rose
Race: White



Household Members:
Frank Nickolino 31
Rose Nickolino 29
Santo Nickolino 8
August Nickolino 6


Source Citation: Year: 1930; Census Place: New Orleans, Orleans, Louisiana; Roll: 808; Page: 16A; Enumeration District: 161; Image: 367.0.


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PostPosted: Tue Jul 31, 2007 1:11 am    Post subject: Re: SEARCHING -- HELP !! Reply with quote

Liz..I just found the same Census for 1930..there are some differences though.it says he only just filed his first papers..and the children's names are different than the ones mentioned yet I think it may be the same person..

Thoughts?


Resized 1930 Census

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 31, 2007 1:11 am    Post subject: Re: SEARCHING -- HELP !! Reply with quote

LOL almost duplicate post!!! Very Happy


I think the Nicolini needs to tell us whether or not the State this Nicolino is found, is the right one Smile

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 31, 2007 1:13 am    Post subject: Re: SEARCHING -- HELP !! Reply with quote

Oh, Nuccia...I wouldn't focus on that much. I've found people whom I know are the right family and all that and the information for Citizenship is not even close from one census to another...

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 31, 2007 1:15 am    Post subject: Re: SEARCHING -- HELP !! Reply with quote

I agree..I think you're right about that.

Now we just need to wait for confirmation and then we can see what the next step would be. Its possible Nicolini can write away for his file under the FOIA. She may have enough enough to request the file.

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 31, 2007 2:05 pm    Post subject: Re: SEARCHING -- HELP !! Reply with quote

Yes I believe this on Frank Nicolini to be correct. But since he did become naturalized, then his wife Rosa would automatically becaome a citizen also. I was hoping for dual citizenship (for myself), but my father - Augusto was born here in the states. No possibly then??
Also, how do I find the acutal town of residence in the Palermo region for Francesco and Rosa's families??
You are a great help. Thank you very much. Smile
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 31, 2007 9:19 pm    Post subject: Re: SEARCHING -- HELP !! Reply with quote

Rosa Sparacino 1902 manifest with mother Francesca Lipari and siblings Pasquale, Gaetano, Francesco, and Grozia joining father/husband Francesco Sparacino in Astoria (Queens County), New York. Last residence Palermo. LInes 5 through 10.
1902 Manifest

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