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PostPosted: Sun Apr 06, 2008 5:11 pm    Post subject: Marriage document question Reply with quote

About the 6th/7th line down it is giving the name of the bride's father 'Antonio Fionda' di professione 'contadino' then it has domiciliato ???? this next part I think is saying that Antonio is dead. Unfortunately its a very poor copy but I'd be very grateful for any suggestions.

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p.s. perhaps the image is a bit clearer on my previous post 'Need Help with a place name' its the same document.

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PostPosted: Sun Apr 06, 2008 6:39 pm    Post subject: Re: Marriage document question Reply with quote

It's nearly impossible to read! Sorry Crying or Very sad

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PostPosted: Sun Apr 06, 2008 7:03 pm    Post subject: Re: Marriage document question Reply with quote

This was the previous posting of the same documant that Emmy mentions... this one is a bit darker - maybe too dark... does anyone know how to 'lighten' it a bit while leaving it fairly distinct?

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PostPosted: Sun Apr 06, 2008 8:33 pm    Post subject: Re: Marriage document question Reply with quote

Is this any better?
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 07, 2008 4:37 am    Post subject: Re: Marriage document question Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 07, 2008 9:19 am    Post subject: Re: Marriage document question Reply with quote

Crying or Very sad I can't read it either Lady Emmy - it's too blurry! Shocked So sorry. Crying or Very sad

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 07, 2008 9:29 am    Post subject: Re: Marriage document question Reply with quote

Just curious, but have you tried using a tripod when you photograph these documents? One might be able to enhance the images if they were in focus.

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 07, 2008 11:56 am    Post subject: Re: Marriage document question Reply with quote

It looks to me like the clerk's symbol for 'ditto' meaning 'the town already stated'.

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 07, 2008 2:56 pm    Post subject: Re: Marriage document question Reply with quote

Many thanks to all for trying. If only my FHC had the means to run off copies!
I go back again tomorrow so I'll take a magnifying glass with me but I'm just wondering if it would be better to write to the priest and ask for a photocopy of the birth act. Do they actually put the information on the marriage act if any of the the couple's parents are dead at the time of the marriage? I know sometimes on birth and death acts they put 'fu' before the name if the person was dead when the record was made. (I did think it said 'morte' after the word 'domiliciato')
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 08, 2008 1:18 pm    Post subject: Re: Marriage document question Reply with quote

Just to let you all know with my 'new' spectacles and a magnifying glass I did find out that it said that Antonio was dead when the marriage of his daughter took place. what is printed is ' isi? morte nove Novembre with 3 small strokes (like 1's) at the end of the word Novembre
There was also another small hand written paragraph at the right hand side of the document about his death and there was a date 1843 so I'm presuming that Antonio died on the 9th November 1843.
I've ordered another film to check it out Smile
I've also discovered that at the end of this film with the marriages for Sant'Elia Fiumerapido there is another section with marriages for Villa Santa Lucia 1813-1849 so if anyone needs anything looked up for those dates in this area I have this film on indefinate loan.
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 08, 2008 1:38 pm    Post subject: Re: Marriage document question Reply with quote

Emmy, did you know that you can order a copy through the FHC photoduplication center? Just give them the roll number, the name of the record and the date. They will probably send you a copy on a nice big piece of 11 x 17 inch paper:
www.familysearch.org/E...rofilm.pdf

I used this service to get copies of some hard to read documents because my FHL has a bad copier.

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 08, 2008 2:02 pm    Post subject: Re: Marriage document question Reply with quote

Thank you for that information/link Poipu My FHC doesnt have any facilities for photocopying records and its only the local records which are on CD's that they can print out. The actual film isnt very good so perhaps I would be better requesting a copy of the original document from the comune at Sant'Elia but I'll take a copy of the form from the link you posted to the FHC next week and ask them about it.
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 08, 2008 5:36 pm    Post subject: Re: Marriage document question Reply with quote

Emmy wrote:
... what is printed is ' isi? morte nove Novembre with 3 small strokes (like 1's) at the end of the word Novembre

Confused I hope you are right, but I'm not so sure!

Emmy wrote:
... There was also another small hand written paragraph at the right hand side of the document about his death and there was a date 1843 so I'm presuming that Antonio died on the 9th November 1843.
I've ordered another film to check it out

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 08, 2008 6:32 pm    Post subject: Re: Marriage document question Reply with quote

Thanks Luca
It was much clearer using the magnifying glass but once I have definate proof
I'll let you know the outcome
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