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PostPosted: Wed Jan 06, 2010 2:03 am    Post subject: Translation of Nuccia's g g g grandfather's death act Reply with quote

FINALLY!! I have found the death act (put in the wrong year on the microfilm) of Nuccia's g g g grandfather Bruno Napolitano. He was born in and lived in Montalto (not San Fili). There is a notation on the side we cannot make out. Can someone please translate it for my cousin Nuccia? Very Happy
Bruno Napolitano death act 1
Here is Another view
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Oh yes and Nuccia and I are related!! WOO HOO!!
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 06, 2010 8:51 am    Post subject: Re: Translation of Nuccia's g g g grandfather's death act Reply with quote

The notation is not important for you research. It states:

" sique (= così è) per l'anno 1814, per disposizione di S(ua) E(ccellenza) il Ministro dell'Interno
come da Sua circolare del 12 Novembre 1813, copia della quale s'inserisce nel p(rese)nte registro."

I don't know to what it refers, but i think to the fact that this act of death is the first of the year 1814.
Do you need some help for the translation?

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PostPosted: Wed Jan 06, 2010 12:21 pm    Post subject: Re: Translation of Nuccia's g g g grandfather's death act Reply with quote

Thank you Luca. I understand and do not need it translated. I could not read it.
OK these documents I found in the processetti of Bruno's brother Pietro. It is in pretty bad condition (for a Montalto document) and I need help figuring it out. It says San Fili at the top so I assume it is an extract of an event (what event?) that took place there. Can you give us the pertinent information from it? I think this gives important information - it mentions Arcangelo and Rosa Scarlato and Arcangelo and Caterina Crivaro. Bruno's parents are Arcangelo and Rosa - I descend from Arcangelo and Caterina so this is important to link Nuccia and I together. The document is HERE and HERE
Thank you again.

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PostPosted: Wed Jan 06, 2010 12:53 pm    Post subject: Re: Translation of Nuccia's g g g grandfather's death act Reply with quote

You guys should create a tree to show us how you connect... That's amazing! The magic of the gente board continues...
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 06, 2010 12:57 pm    Post subject: Re: Translation of Nuccia's g g g grandfather's death act Reply with quote

Mauro - I think I can do that as soon as I figure these documents out. I beleive we both descend from Arcangelo but through different wives. We shall see soon! Very Happy If I am correct, I will post something as to how we connect - more than once!

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PostPosted: Wed Jan 06, 2010 1:40 pm    Post subject: Re: Translation of Nuccia's g g g grandfather's death act Reply with quote

Caterina Crivaro is Domenico's wife (not Arcangelo's).

www.montaltouffugo.org...nto/02.jpg

Certifico io qui sotto Par(roc)o di S. Fili, e vice ab(at)e(?) di S. Sisto (not S. Paolo)
qualm(ent)e avendo perquisito i libri di morte della Ca-
stagna, ho trovato la particola seguente:
A(nno) D(omini) millesimo octing(entesi)mo die vero quarta m(ensi)s aprilis
in Villa [...] Dominicus Napolitano Catherinae Cri-
varo vir aet(ati)s suae an(norum) 35 circiter, omnibus susce-
ptis sacramentis in C(omunione) S(anctae) M(atris) E(cclesiae) animam Deo red-
didit. Eius corpus in hac Eccl(esi)a sepultum et ad
fidem_ Vincentius Stella Aeconumus Curatus.

(L'anno del Signore 1800, il giorno 4 di Aprile
nella Villa [...] Domenico Napolitano, marito di Caterina Crivaro
dell'età di anni 35 circa, ricevuti tutti
i sacramenti rese l'anima a Dio in comunione di Santa Madre Chiesa.
Il suo corpo in questa Chiesa sepolto e
in fede... Vincenzo Stella economo e curato.)

Onde in onor del vero ne ho estratto il p(rese)nte
sotto(scritto) e suggellato da servire per uso di mat(rimoni)o
S.M. della Castagna 20 Ott(obr)e 1821
Giuseppe can(onico) Caracciolo


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PostPosted: Wed Jan 06, 2010 1:42 pm    Post subject: Re: Translation of Nuccia's g g g grandfather's death act Reply with quote

How very, very exciting! Looking forward to seeing how it turns out!

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PostPosted: Wed Jan 06, 2010 2:18 pm    Post subject: Re: Translation of Nuccia's g g g grandfather's death act Reply with quote

Thanks Luca. What year is that in Italian? (A(nno) D(omini) millesimo octing(entesi)mo)

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PostPosted: Wed Jan 06, 2010 3:48 pm    Post subject: Re: Translation of Nuccia's g g g grandfather's death act Reply with quote

Luca wrote:
...(L'anno del Signore 1800, il giorno 4 di Aprile
nella Villa [...]
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 06, 2010 4:05 pm    Post subject: Re: Translation of Nuccia's g g g grandfather's death act Reply with quote

www.montaltouffugo.org...nto/03.jpg

Certifico io qui sotto Par(roc)o di S. Fili, e vice ab(at)e(?) di S. Sisto qual-
m(ent)e avendo perquisito i libri dei morti della Castagna,
ho trovato la particola come segue: A(nno) D(omini) mille-
simo septingen(tesi)mo septuagesimo secundo, die vero
decimasecunda m(ensi)s 8bris in Villa [...] Archangelus
Neapolitano vir Rosae Scarlato aet(ati)s suae an(norum) 55
circiter, omnibus susceptis sacramentis in C(omunione) S(anctae) M(atris) E(cclesiae)
animam Deo reddidit. Eius corpus in hac Par(ochia)li Ec-
cl(esi)a sepultum et ad fidem_ Franciscus Mili(?)
Aeconumus Curatus.

(L'anno del Signore
1772, il giorno
12 del mese di Ottobre nella Villa [...] Arcangelo
Napolitano
, marito di Rosa Scarlato dell'età di anni 55
circa, ricevuti tutti i sacramenti in comunione di Santa Madre Chiesa
rese l'anima a Dio. Il suo corpo in questa Chiesa parrocchiale
sepolto e in fede... Francesco Mili(?)
economo e curato.)

Onde in onor del vero ne
ho formato il p(rese)nte sotto(scritto) e suggellato da servire
per uso di mat(rimoni)o. S.M. della Castagna 20 Otto-
bre 1821
Gius(epp)e can(onico) Caracciolus


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PostPosted: Wed Jan 06, 2010 4:46 pm    Post subject: Re: Translation of Nuccia's g g g grandfather's death act Reply with quote

Thank you so much Luca! What would we do without your help?!! I think that name is Francesco Mele.

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PostPosted: Wed Jan 06, 2010 5:42 pm    Post subject: Re: Translation of Nuccia's g g g grandfather's death act Reply with quote

Ok Cathy - what does this all mean now? Who is who is who related to? .. lol I am still trying to process this whole thing. It's soooo weird. Smile

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PostPosted: Wed Jan 06, 2010 6:23 pm    Post subject: Re: Translation of Nuccia's g g g grandfather's death act Reply with quote

Ok..this is all Chinese to me..Who are these people - names and ages or dates born. I can't read anything so PLEASE PLEASE HELP!

Gaetano Giacomo? I do not know this latin name it is a guess
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Tomaso Nicola ? 1708 (far right, 2nd from last)
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Anna Teresa (who is her mom??) 1787
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Bruno's Baptism!! (woo hoo)
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I have no idea what this name is in Italian or English
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Francesco Antonio
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Teresa Aurelia 1747?
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Pietro
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Vincenzo Antonio
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 07, 2010 5:23 am    Post subject: Re: Translation of Nuccia's g g g grandfather's death act Reply with quote

nuccia wrote:
Gaetano Giacomo? I do not know this latin name it is a guess
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Gaetano Giacomo Napolitano, born 1762 November 14th, parents Arcangelo Napolitano and Rosa Scarlato

Tomaso Nicola ? 1708 (far right, 2nd from last)
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Tommaso Nicola Napolitano, born 1768 December 28th, parents Arcangelo Napolitano and Rosa Scarlato

Anna Teresa (who is her mom??) 1787
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Anna Teresa Napolitano, born 1787 July 3rd, parents Ignazio Napolitano (son of the late Arcangelo) and Maria Gaetana(?) (or Maria daughter of Gaetano?) Isidori.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 07, 2010 5:35 am    Post subject: Re: Translation of Nuccia's g g g grandfather's death act Reply with quote

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Bruno's Baptism!! (woo hoo)
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Bruno Napolitano, born 1760 March 10th, parents Arcangelo Napolitano and Rosa Scarlato (then, if this is your anchestor, i'll give you a complete transcription)

I have no idea what this name is in Italian or English
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Ignazio Napolitano, born 1754 February 5th, parents Arcangelo Napolitano and Rosa Scarlato.

Francesco Antonio
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Francesco Antonio Napolitano, born 1756 May 9th, parents parents Arcangelo Napolitano and Rosa Scarlato.
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