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Tiger965
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 08, 2008 7:17 pm    Post subject: Re: Translation Help Reply with quote

I found another name from Giuseppe and Grazia. I think it says Fodano.? ~(Child #2 ~ 1st Marriage) ~ Gaetano~
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This is Vito from Giuseppe and Lucia. (wrong one)
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SORRY. now I found it.
http://img509.imageshack.us/img509/8702/vitosapienza2qs5.jpg


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PostPosted: Sat Mar 08, 2008 8:38 pm    Post subject: Re: Translation Help Reply with quote

Hi Rita

The child of birth in the first act is Gaetano Sapienza son of Giuseppe and mother Grazia Stra? - you may want to add this link on the previous page where you have the two marriages listed and the children for each marriage. Nice find!
The child of birth in the second act is Vito Sapienza son of Mauro and mother Maria Longa ? - this one isn't a child of Giuseppe and Lucia.

Maybe Livio and/or Luca can confim and give you a full translation on the first birth act.

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PostPosted: Sat Mar 08, 2008 9:14 pm    Post subject: Re: Translation Help Reply with quote

Gaetano Sapienza born on February 23 1869, son of Grazia Siramondo (26) and Giuseppe Sapienza (36) farmer.
Notation on the right: he married on March 10 1900
[The same day was born my grandfather, by the way] with Angela Liticio(?) daugther of Salvatore

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PostPosted: Sat Mar 08, 2008 10:55 pm    Post subject: Re: Translation Help Reply with quote

Hi Luca, Sorry I posted the wrong Vito. Would you please translate the one below it. I saw Rosaria on the right whom he married. Thank you.

I think I found a Francesco Sapienza son of Michelangelo? Shocked Very Happy
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 09, 2008 11:15 am    Post subject: Re: Translation Help Reply with quote

Francesca Sapienza born April 6 1884, daughter of Michelangelo Sapienza (26) and Rosa xxx. There is no reason for a Shocked : he is simply another Michelangelo.

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PostPosted: Sun Mar 09, 2008 3:29 pm    Post subject: Re: Translation Help Reply with quote

Tiger965 wrote:

~Vito born Febbraro 1879
Church Record
Civil Registration
http://img509.imageshack.us/img509/8702/vitosapienza2qs5.jpg

Rita the date of birth for Vito is February 18 1878

Luca or Livio you may want to check and make sure I'm correct.

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PostPosted: Sun Mar 09, 2008 4:15 pm    Post subject: Re: Translation Help Reply with quote

BillieDeKid wrote:


Rita the date of birth for Vito is February 18 1878

The birth date is 17. 18 is the date of the act. The surname of Lucia (wife of Giuseppe Sapienza) is almost illegible but isn't neither Distefano nor Proietto Shocked

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PostPosted: Sun Mar 09, 2008 5:39 pm    Post subject: Re: Translation Help Reply with quote

Now what do I do? I know we have a Vito, he married a Rosario,and came to the U.S. Now this is really strange! Shocked Do I go back and find the document and clear it up more like Elizabeth mentioned to me? Would that help?? Sad ~ Rita
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 09, 2008 7:53 pm    Post subject: Re: Translation Help Reply with quote

Tiger965 wrote:
Now what do I do? I know we have a Vito, he married a Rosaria,and came to the U.S. Now this is really strange! Shocked Do I go back and find the document and clear it up more like Elizabeth mentioned to me? Would that help?? Sad ~ Rita

Sorry, but I didn't understand the meaning of your question (guilt of my bed English). What's the problem with Vito? I understood that your g-g-gfather was Giuseppe? Isn't it?

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PostPosted: Sun Mar 09, 2008 9:30 pm    Post subject: Re: Translation Help Reply with quote

Luca and Rita -

Luca - Rita is telling you that the 1878 document for Vito Sapienza son of Giuseppe she's believes is correct because the note on the right side under his name lists Rosaria D'Urso as wife (she says he married a woman named Rosaria)

Rita - Luca is telling you that the 1878 document for Vito Sapienza son of Giuseppe is not correct because the mother is not Lucia Proietto or DiStefano. If you look at the document you will see her last name is different so this is a different Giuseppe Sapienza.

Also - There is already an 1866 document for Vito Sapienza son of Giuseppe and Giuseppe's first wife.

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PostPosted: Sun Mar 09, 2008 9:34 pm    Post subject: Re: Translation Help Reply with quote

The surname of Lucia (wife of Giuseppe Sapienza) is almost illegible but isn't neither Distefano nor Proietto

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So is there a different woman? but my family knows that Lucia and Giuseppe had a son named Vito.
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 09, 2008 9:56 pm    Post subject: Re: Translation Help Reply with quote

1910 Manifest for Vito Sapienza (born about 1880) joining brother Alfio and sisters Maria and Rosa

Page 1
www.ellisisland.org/EI...;line=0001
Page 2
www.ellisisland.org/EI...;line=0001

Full thread from IG forum
italiangenealogy.tardi...ienza.html

So it looks like there is a Vito Sapienza born to Giuseppe and Giuseppe's first wife in 1866 and another son named Vito born to Giuseppe and second wife (Lucia Proietto/DiStefano) or to a third mystery woman???

Would anyone like to speculate on what is going on?

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 10, 2008 8:45 am    Post subject: Re: Translation Help Reply with quote

Tiger965 wrote:
The surname of Lucia (wife of Giuseppe Sapienza) is almost illegible but isn't neither Distefano nor Proietto

Ciao
So is there a different woman? but my family knows that Lucia and Giuseppe had a son named Vito.

No, I don't think she is another woman. I only was surprised that the Officier called her with a third surname! Shocked Shocked Shocked

Tiger965 wrote:

So it looks like there is a Vito Sapienza born to Giuseppe and Giuseppe's first wife in 1866 (Yes, but surely he died infant) and another son named Vito born to Giuseppe and second wife (Lucia Proietto/DiStefano) (Yes) or to a third mystery woman??? (I think no, also if we haven't Vito baptism act for a confirmation)


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PostPosted: Tue Mar 11, 2008 6:39 pm    Post subject: Re: Translation Help Reply with quote

I have posted some Civil Registrations highlighted in Maroon. I think I found out about my question of Pasquale Serafica and Rosa Sapienza. Smile He was married to Grazia Sapienza so Rosa is his sister in law. Please help me out by translating dates and the names of others. Thank you.


I think I found a Domenica child of Alfio Sapienza and Maria Mio.


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also Antonino child of Alfio Sapienza and Maria Mio

http://img211.imageshack.us/img211/5691/antoninosapienza1hb7.jpg
http://img516.imageshack.us/img516/4844/antonino2me3.jpg


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PostPosted: Tue Mar 11, 2008 8:11 pm    Post subject: Re: Translation Help Reply with quote

Tomorrow I'll give a look. Now I can only say: good night! Smile
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