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PostPosted: Tue May 30, 2017 11:01 am    Post subject: Maria Perri Reply with quote

Hi,
I am trying to find genealogical information regarding my great-grandmother, Maria Perri, born ~1859 (or maybe 1871). I believe that she was from somewhere in Calabria, but eventually moved to Pignataro Maggiore in Caserta. She married Michele Barbato. As a widow, she emigrated to Syracuse NY to be with her son, Francesco Barbato (my grandfather). Maria Barbato died in 1943 in Cortland NY, where I live. Her death certificate does not provide much genealogical infomation. Any help about who I can contact to find out more about her life (birth, parents, siblings, etc.) would be much appreciated.
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PostPosted: Wed May 31, 2017 5:59 am    Post subject: Re: Maria Perri Reply with quote

There are tips on finding the town of origin on my website, however you do have a brick wall here I suspect that will require some expert advice.

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PostPosted: Wed May 31, 2017 12:19 pm    Post subject: Re: Maria Perri Reply with quote

MikeBarbato wrote:
Hi,
I am trying to find genealogical information regarding my great-grandmother, Maria Perri, born ~1859 (or maybe 1871). I believe that she was from somewhere in Calabria, but eventually moved to Pignataro Maggiore in Caserta. She married Michele Barbato. As a widow, she emigrated to Syracuse NY to be with her son, Francesco Barbato (my grandfather). Maria Barbato died in 1943 in Cortland NY, where I live. Her death certificate does not provide much genealogical infomation. Any help about who I can contact to find out more about her life (birth, parents, siblings, etc.) would be much appreciated.
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Mike Barbato

Hi Mike,
Have you tried this website? It has Italian birth, marriage and death records. Smile

www.antenati.san.beniculturali.it

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PostPosted: Wed May 31, 2017 7:12 pm    Post subject: Re: Maria Perri Reply with quote

Francesco Barbato's Pignataro Maggiore birth act, lower right

Father, Michele Barbato, 24, a shoemaker
Mother, Maria Perri, a housewife

Born 14 Jun 1886 at 10:30am in a house at Via CalvI #3

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PostPosted: Wed May 31, 2017 7:29 pm    Post subject: Re: Maria Perri Reply with quote

Sister Antonetta Barbato's birth act, bottom right

Born 18 Dec 1887 at Via Calvi, #3

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PostPosted: Wed May 31, 2017 7:46 pm    Post subject: Re: Maria Perri Reply with quote

Brother Antonio's birth act, top left

Born 18 Feb 1890 at Via Oliveto, #2

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PostPosted: Wed May 31, 2017 7:50 pm    Post subject: Re: Maria Perri Reply with quote

Father Michele's 1890 death act, top left

Died 6:30pm on 9 Aug 1890 in a house at Via Oliveto, #2
29 years old, born in this town (Pignataro Maggiore)
Father, Antonio (deceased), Mother Carolina Bovenzi (living)
Husband of Maria Perri

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PostPosted: Thu Jun 01, 2017 8:57 am    Post subject: Re: Maria Perri Reply with quote

Thank you all for your suggestions. This remains a mystery.
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 01, 2017 7:31 pm    Post subject: Re: Maria Perri Reply with quote

Mike,

I also checked the Pignataro Maggiore marriages for Michele Barbato/Maria Perri from 1877-1886 and did not find a record. Since marriages usually took place in the bride's hometown, as you mentioned this would indicate that Maria was not from Pignataro.

From the US census records I found, they showed Maria arrived in the US about 1908. However, she is not listed on census records with son Frank in 1915 or 1920. The first census I found her living with Frank was on the 1925 NY census in Syracuse. So, if she arrived in 1908 where was she before joining Frank? With another one of her children? I'm going to check to see if I can find Maria's ship manifest and see if it might hold any other clues.

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PostPosted: Sat Jun 03, 2017 10:44 am    Post subject: Re: Maria Perri Reply with quote

you need to request Father Michele's birth record from the town. It should (if you are lucky) give the date and place of his marriage to Maria.

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PostPosted: Wed Jun 07, 2017 10:32 am    Post subject: Re: Maria Perri Reply with quote

Thank you Biff and Ann. I have most of those records, but do not have Michele's birth certificate (should be around 1861?). I agree that it may be very helpful to learn more about Michele. His wife, Maria Perri, I think was from Calabria (if I had to guess, I would say Falerna). Her birth certificate (1859? --although her death certificate says 1871) would be helpful, as would their marriage certificate, as you say. I cannot read Italian, so I truly appreciate your interpretations. For example, I did not know that Michele died at 6:30 PM. I appreciate ALL of your help! What I can discover from here in America is very limited. Thank you! Mike Barbato
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 07, 2017 10:34 am    Post subject: Re: Maria Perri Reply with quote

Ann, how do I request a birth record for Michele Barbato from the town (Pignataro Maggiore)? Thanks, Mike
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 11, 2017 4:24 pm    Post subject: Re: Maria Perri Reply with quote

Hi Biff, were did you see Maria (Perri) Barbato emigrating to the US in 1908. I cannot find the document. Thanks, Mike
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 13, 2017 1:38 pm    Post subject: Re: Maria Perri Reply with quote

It was on the 1930 census. See line 41 under the column immigration year.

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PostPosted: Wed Jun 14, 2017 12:57 pm    Post subject: Re: Maria Perri Reply with quote

Thank you Biff!
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