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PostPosted: Wed Jan 09, 2008 12:57 pm    Post subject: Re: Catasti!!!!! Reply with quote

Embarassed Ooops! The was the old document. Here is the new multi page PDF file:
www.calabriangenealogy...atasti.pdf

Sorry about the confusion. Embarassed

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PostPosted: Wed Jan 09, 2008 1:47 pm    Post subject: Re: Catasti!!!!! Reply with quote

I'm still dancing over these documents!!!! party
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 09, 2008 3:01 pm    Post subject: Re: Catasti!!!!! Reply with quote

MauroMags wrote:
WOW!! Livio thank you so much!!! and please thank Luca for me.

I believe that the son Gius. is my gggg-grandfather. From other records i've learned that his father-in-law was named Corrado Cappolecchia. I wonder if its the same Corrado.
Luca has confirmed that the name is Corrado Cappolecchia...

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PostPosted: Wed Jan 09, 2008 3:05 pm    Post subject: Re: Catasti!!!!! Reply with quote

Luca rocks!! Do you think he would mind looking at the other documents for Mauro?
*joins the dance with Mauro*
party *whaps Liz for giving Gina a half whap on Skype*

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PostPosted: Wed Jan 09, 2008 3:08 pm    Post subject: Re: Catasti!!!!! Reply with quote

Cathy wrote:
Luca rocks!! Do you think he would mind looking at the other documents for Mauro?
*joins the dance with Mauro*
party *whaps Liz for giving Gina a half whap on Skype*
I just posted on the other forum the link to the document Smile Smile Smile

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PostPosted: Wed Jan 09, 2008 3:50 pm    Post subject: Re: Catasti!!!!! Reply with quote

thanks again Livio!
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 10, 2008 1:47 pm    Post subject: Re: Catasti!!!!! Reply with quote

Following are 2 posts from Luca:
I do not have, time right now, to translate them, but I will summarize them in the next few days.

Luca www.bertotti.it/geneal...=4129#4129 wrote:
Le parole di cui non sono sicuro sono seguite da un punto esclamativo (!)
La parte superiore della foto riguarda una precedente famiglia

Giuseppe Dom(eni)co(!) Magarelli serv(ito)re(!) di anni 46
Marianna Cermio di anni 47
Vito figlio bracciale di anni 18
Laura figlia di anni 16
Giovanna figlia di anni 12
Testa [che stia per capofamiglia ?] doc(ati) uno
Ind(ustri)a di .?. once 12
Ind(ustri)a di .?. once 12
Abita alla casa d(ei) Gesuiti(!) alla strada della piscina nuova, e paga annuj doc(ati) sei e mezzo. Niente possedendo vive dell’industria delle braccie.

[Gio. Battista di Cesare non credo interessi al tuo amico]

Felice Magarelli scarparo d’anni 29
Fran(ces)ca(!) Marino moglie d’anni 32
Paolo figlio d’anni 9
Isabella figlia d’anni 7
Salvatore figlio d’anni 4
Gio(vanni) Maria figlio d’anni 2
Vito figlio
Fran(ces)co figlio
Testa doc(ati) uno
Ind(ustri)a once 12
Possiede un cap(ita)le di Doc(ati) trenta con suo annuo censo di Carli(ni) trentuno(!) dovuto da Gius(epp)e Andriano. Sono once 7
Un altro cap(ita)le di Doc(ati) trenta con suo annuo censo di Carli(ni) ventuno(!) dovuto da ... Allegretta. Sono once 7
Un altro cap(ita)le di Doc(ati) dieci con suo annuo censo di Carli(ni) sette dov(ut)o da Paolo de Santis. Sono once 2
Abita alla casa del monte(!) Pappagallo alla strada de mamoni(!), e paga annuj doc(ati) cinque. Altro non possedendo vive dell’industria delle bracce.
In tutto once 16
Nota a margine:
1769
Il contrascritto cap(ita)le
affrancato e consumato
1755(!)
Più non lo possiede [è strano l’ordine degli anni delle 2 annotazioni]

Donato Magarelli vaticale(?!?) d’anni 43
Isabella Sanlicandro moglie d’anni 37
Lonardo figlio d’anni 12
Vincenzo figlio d’anni 10
Camilla figlia d’anni 8
Gen(nar)o figlio d’anni 4
Fran(cesco) Sav(verio) figlio d’anni 1
Testa doc(ati) uno
Ind(ustri)a once 12
Possiede una mezza vigna d’olive alle chiusurelle(!), app(ress)o li beni di Gius(epp)e Tanello(!), ed altri [riferito ai confinanti con la vigna] stimata annua rendita per Carlini dodici. Sono once 4
Un cavallo stabilita l’annua rendita per doc(ati) dieci. Sono once 16.
Abita alla strada della piscina nuova alla strada di Vito di Claudio e paga annuj doc(ati) cinque, altro non possedendo vive dell’industria delle bracce. In tutto once 20.
Note a margine
1755
dismesso fin dall’anno passato (Riferito a cosa?)
1762
? (Non riesco a capire)

Domani provo la parte restante.
Ciao
Luca

Luca www.bertotti.it/geneal...=4129#4129 wrote:
Pagina 6 è quella già analizzata. La riporto comunque perché ho modificato alcune cose.

Vincenzo Magarelli bracciale di anni 28
Anna Tridente moglie di anni 25
Gius(epp)e figlio di anni 6
Modesto figlio di anni 3
Testa doc(ati) uno
Industria once 12
Possiede mezza vigna d'oliva alla bracarella, appresso li beni di Nicolò Bonadusce ed altri stimata l’annuo censo per Carlini undeci. Once 3
Abita all'Anunziata alla casa di Comodo Cappellecchia, e paga annuj Doc(ati) quattro, altro non possedendo vive dell'industria delle braccia.
In tutto (once) 3
A margine
1763
Possiede un bovino sano onc(e) 8:10
1765
Morto il sud(ett)o Magarelli
[6 parole che non capisco; forse: e come v(edov)a niente si ... ...]
morto anche il bove.

Pagina 7: rispetto alle pagine precedenti dovrebbero esserci almeno 25 anni di differenza.
[c’è un obiit (morì) che non mi spiego]
D(on) Vito Lonardo Magarelli Sacerdote d’anni 38
Beni patrimoniali
1789
possiede una rendita(!) in once 33,10
1791
Per sette bovi once 70, per due giumente once 26
1793
Li bovi sono 8. Vigne sei di ... alla ... mediante li beni [la pagina seguente non è la continuazione di questa]

[Il Paolo Magarelli che compare alla pagina 8 dovrebbe essere riportato solo come confinante con i beni dell’intestatario della scheda, che però è scritto nella pagina precedente: dovrebbe trattarsi del figlio, ma non c’è il nome]
[anche la pagina 9 non è completa e dovrebbe parlare della stessa persona della 8, ma non sono pagine consecutive]

Fammi sapere se c'è qualcosa non chiaro (e se trovi degli errori, chiaramente)
Ciao
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 10, 2008 1:53 pm    Post subject: Re: Catasti!!!!! Reply with quote

interesting... Funny how the priest (Don Vito Lonardo Magarelli) owned so much more compared to the others in this census. He has sette bovi!!!!!

thanks again Livio, without your help i would still be struggling over the word "bovio"

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PostPosted: Sun Feb 03, 2008 7:25 pm    Post subject: Re: Catasti!!!!! Reply with quote

Per i traduttori
Sarebbe rimasto in sospeso questo lavoretto! Chi se la sente? Mr. Green

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