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#76: Re: Translation Help Author: BillieDeKidLocation: Illinois PostPosted: Mon Jan 28, 2008 12:25 pm
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Tiger965 wrote:
Sure sorry I posted the wrong one.
www.calabriangenealogy...pienza.JPG

Luca........Alfio

#77: Re: Translation Help Author: LauraLocation: Italy - Liguria PostPosted: Mon Jan 28, 2008 12:32 pm
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Rita,

to determine the exact birth year it's necessary see the whole page....
The one you send me in PDF format is perfect.... do you have a copy of that to post here?

Per Luca,
se mi vuoi dare il tuo indirizzo e-mail ti mando l'allegato PDF che Rita mi ha spedito, comunque io ho desunto l'anno dall'atto precedente a quello di Alfio che riportava questo anno:
millesimo octingentesimo octingesimo quarto
Ma sarei felice se tu o Livio controllaste... Wink

Laura

#78: Re: Translation Help Author: liviomorenoLocation: Rome (Italy) PostPosted: Mon Jan 28, 2008 12:41 pm
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Laura,
I sent you a PM with my email.

#79: Re: Translation Help Author: BillieDeKidLocation: Illinois PostPosted: Mon Jan 28, 2008 1:04 pm
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Complete document...........Alfio

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#80: Re: Translation Help Author: LucaLocation: Terni - Italy PostPosted: Mon Jan 28, 2008 1:47 pm
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Laura please translate.
A questo punto l'unica spiegazione sta nell'atto di battesimo di Agostino Sapienza (che forse Sapienza non è): essendo poco definito e di pessima qualità, quello che sembrerebbe il cognome oggetto della ricerca potrebbe essere, in realtà una cosa diversa (ad es. Rapisarda) e la madre pur chiamandosi Lucia probabilmente non è Distefano.
Se si riuscisse ad avere un'immagine migliore potremmo essere più sicuri, ma comunque la discendenza di Giuseppe dovrebbe essere la seguente (sarebbe interessante avere anche la foto di Eugenio):

1875 Domenica
18?? Vito
1880 December 25 Natalia (Mother Lucia ?)
1882 September 29 Giovanni (Mother Lucia Distefano ) then:
1884 May 10 Alfio (Mother Lucia Distefano )
1885 September 22 Maria (Mother Lucia Distefano )
1887 April 16 Rosa (Mother Lucia Distefano )
1890 April 22 Agata (Mother Lucia Distefano )
1891 December 24 Salvatore (Mother Lucia Distefano )
1893 April 19 Francesco (Mother Lucia Proietto)
1896 Eugenio
1899 July 23 Anna (Mother Lucia ?)

Ciao
Luca

#81: Re: Translation Help Author: BillieDeKidLocation: Illinois PostPosted: Mon Jan 28, 2008 2:31 pm
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Luca

Agostino......meglio?

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#82: Re: Translation Help Author: BillieDeKidLocation: Illinois PostPosted: Mon Jan 28, 2008 2:46 pm
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Livio or Laura

Can you please tell Luca I do not have a birth act or baptism for Euginio. I looked on the IG forum and no image posted there.

I think Rita is getting the birth year from the ship's manifest.....Ellis Island.

Also, tried to clean the image of Agostino.

#83: Re: Translation Help Author: LucaLocation: Terni - Italy PostPosted: Mon Jan 28, 2008 2:54 pm
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Quote::
Agostino......meglio?

Not too much! The problem is the low definition (I hope it's the exact term) and not the clarity. Thank you alike.
Ciao
Luca

#84: Re: Translation Help Author: liviomorenoLocation: Rome (Italy) PostPosted: Mon Jan 28, 2008 2:57 pm
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BillieDeKid wrote:
Luca

Agostino......meglio?

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As Luca was mentioning, this Agostino does not seem to be a Sapienza, the surname is something like Rapisarda...

#85: Re: Translation Help Author: LucaLocation: Terni - Italy PostPosted: Mon Jan 28, 2008 3:02 pm
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BillieDeKid wrote:
Livio or Laura

Can you please tell Luca .....

I'm not so good at write in English, but I can understand what you write (I hope...) Wink
Bye

#86: Re: Translation Help Author: BillieDeKidLocation: Illinois PostPosted: Mon Jan 28, 2008 3:50 pm
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Thank you Livio. And Luca, your english is better than my italian Wink

#87: Re: Translation Help Author: Tiger965Location: Melbourne ,Florida PostPosted: Mon Jan 28, 2008 11:23 pm
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I found Eugenio's Registration Card which has his date of Birth and where he lived in Brooklyn, Kings,New York. I still have to find his Birth Document on the film.

#88: Re: Translation Help Author: Tiger965Location: Melbourne ,Florida PostPosted: Mon Jan 28, 2008 11:38 pm
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Luca
Quote "Agostino......meglio?

img143.imageshack.us/i...inoos0.jpg" When I was looking at this document I thought the Maria was a Sapienza from my family but this does not pertain to my family that I know of. .

#89: Re: Translation Help Author: liviomorenoLocation: Rome (Italy) PostPosted: Tue Jan 29, 2008 5:23 am
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Tiger965 wrote:
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Luca
Quote "Agostino......meglio?

img143.imageshack.us/i...inoos0.jpg" When I was looking at this document I thought the Maria was a Sapienza from my family but this does not pertain to my family that I know of. .

hide Embarassed I think that I was the originator of this confusion Embarassed hide
Agostino is NOT a Sapienza.

#90: Re: Translation Help Author: CaroleLocation: Valtellina - Near Lake Como PostPosted: Tue Jan 29, 2008 3:13 pm
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Don't beat yourself up over this Livio - we've all been there and done that at some time...

All we can do is pray that when we do cause confusion it doesn't start a war!!! peep



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