x
Toggle Content Register or Login  -  March 28, 2024, 10:26 pm
Toggle Content User Info

Welcome Anonymous

Nickname
Password

Membership:
Latest: LucilleDZ
New Today: 0
New Yesterday: 0
Overall: 2016

People Online:
Members: 0
Visitors: 314
Total: 314
Who Is Where:
 Visitors:
01: Community Forums
02: My Account
03: Community Forums
04: Community Forums
05: My Account
06: Community Forums
07: My Account
08: Community Forums
09: My Account
10: Photo Gallery
11: Community Forums
12: Community Forums
13: Community Forums
14: Home
15: Community Forums
16: My Account
17: My Account
18: Community Forums
19: Community Forums
20: Community Forums
21: My Account
22: Photo Gallery
23: My Account
24: Community Forums
25: Community Forums
26: Community Forums
27: Community Forums
28: Community Forums
29: My Account
30: My Account
31: Community Forums
32: My Account
33: Community Forums
34: My Account
35: Community Forums
36: My Account
37: Community Forums
38: Community Forums
39: Community Forums
40: Community Forums
41: Community Forums
42: Community Forums
43: My Account
44: My Account
45: Community Forums
46: Community Forums
47: My Account
48: Statistics
49: My Account
50: Community Forums
51: Statistics
52: My Account
53: Community Forums
54: Community Forums
55: Community Forums
56: My Account
57: My Account
58: My Account
59: Community Forums
60: My Account
61: My Account
62: Community Forums
63: Community Forums
64: Community Forums
65: My Account
66: Community Forums
67: Home
68: Community Forums
69: Community Forums
70: Statistics
71: Community Forums
72: Community Forums
73: Community Forums
74: My Account
75: Community Forums
76: Photo Gallery
77: My Account
78: Community Forums
79: Community Forums
80: Community Forums
81: Community Forums
82: My Account
83: My Account
84: Community Forums
85: Community Forums
86: Community Forums
87: Home
88: Community Forums
89: Community Forums
90: Photo Gallery
91: Community Forums
92: My Account
93: Community Forums
94: Community Forums
95: My Account
96: Community Forums
97: Community Forums
98: Community Forums
99: My Account
100: My Account
101: Community Forums
102: Community Forums
103: My Account
104: Home
105: Community Forums
106: Statistics
107: Community Forums
108: Community Forums
109: My Account
110: Community Forums
111: Statistics
112: Statistics
113: My Account
114: My Account
115: Stories Archive
116: Community Forums
117: Community Forums
118: Community Forums
119: Stories Archive
120: Community Forums
121: Community Forums
122: My Account
123: Community Forums
124: Home
125: Community Forums
126: Community Forums
127: Community Forums
128: Community Forums
129: Statistics
130: Community Forums
131: Community Forums
132: My Account
133: My Account
134: Community Forums
135: Community Forums
136: My Account
137: My Account
138: Community Forums
139: Community Forums
140: Community Forums
141: Community Forums
142: Community Forums
143: Community Forums
144: Community Forums
145: Community Forums
146: Home
147: Statistics
148: Community Forums
149: Community Forums
150: Community Forums
151: Community Forums
152: Community Forums
153: My Account
154: Community Forums
155: Community Forums
156: Community Forums
157: My Account
158: Community Forums
159: Community Forums
160: Home
161: My Account
162: My Account
163: My Account
164: Community Forums
165: Community Forums
166: Community Forums
167: Photo Gallery
168: My Account
169: Community Forums
170: My Account
171: Community Forums
172: My Account
173: My Account
174: My Account
175: Community Forums
176: Community Forums
177: My Account
178: My Account
179: Community Forums
180: Community Forums
181: Community Forums
182: Community Forums
183: My Account
184: Community Forums
185: My Account
186: My Account
187: Community Forums
188: Community Forums
189: Community Forums
190: My Account
191: Community Forums
192: Community Forums
193: Community Forums
194: Community Forums
195: Community Forums
196: Community Forums
197: Community Forums
198: Community Forums
199: Statistics
200: Community Forums
201: Statistics
202: My Account
203: My Account
204: Community Forums
205: Community Forums
206: Community Forums
207: Community Forums
208: My Account
209: Community Forums
210: Community Forums
211: My Account
212: My Account
213: Community Forums
214: My Account
215: Community Forums
216: Community Forums
217: Community Forums
218: Community Forums
219: Community Forums
220: Community Forums
221: Community Forums
222: Community Forums
223: Community Forums
224: Community Forums
225: My Account
226: Community Forums
227: Community Forums
228: My Account
229: Community Forums
230: Community Forums
231: Community Forums
232: Community Forums
233: Community Forums
234: Community Forums
235: Community Forums
236: My Account
237: My Account
238: My Account
239: My Account
240: Community Forums
241: My Account
242: My Account
243: Community Forums
244: Community Forums
245: My Account
246: Community Forums
247: Community Forums
248: Community Forums
249: Community Forums
250: Community Forums
251: Community Forums
252: My Account
253: Community Forums
254: My Account
255: Community Forums
256: Home
257: Community Forums
258: Community Forums
259: Community Forums
260: Community Forums
261: Community Forums
262: Community Forums
263: My Account
264: My Account
265: Community Forums
266: Community Forums
267: Statistics
268: My Account
269: Community Forums
270: Community Forums
271: Community Forums
272: Community Forums
273: Community Forums
274: Community Forums
275: Community Forums
276: Community Forums
277: Community Forums
278: Community Forums
279: Community Forums
280: Community Forums
281: Community Forums
282: Community Forums
283: My Account
284: My Account
285: Community Forums
286: My Account
287: My Account
288: Community Forums
289: Photo Gallery
290: Community Forums
291: Community Forums
292: My Account
293: Community Forums
294: Community Forums
295: Community Forums
296: Community Forums
297: My Account
298: Community Forums
299: Community Forums
300: Community Forums
301: Community Forums
302: Community Forums
303: Community Forums
304: Community Forums
305: Community Forums
306: Community Forums
307: My Account
308: Community Forums
309: Community Forums
310: Community Forums
311: Community Forums
312: Community Forums
313: Community Forums
314: Statistics

Staff Online:

No staff members are online!
Toggle Content Main Menu
Toggle Content Last Posts
Last 10 Forum Messages

bocca
Last post by tennino in General Discussion Groups on Jan 16, 2021 at 16:56:41

Towns in Frosinone that were part of former Vatican States a
Last post by Italysearcher in Central Italy on Feb 19, 2019 at 09:15:58

Dual Citizenship
Last post by Curci-Ghio in General Discussion Groups on Nov 18, 2018 at 15:30:54

Please Help Translate Letter
Last post by nuccia in Translations on Oct 20, 2018 at 06:18:43

Family in Cittanova
Last post by russojoseph1 in Translations on Oct 14, 2018 at 12:28:20

DNA Testing
Last post by nuccia in General Discussion Groups on Sep 29, 2018 at 10:39:30

Trento -Atto di Nascita - Frazione di Poia, Comune di Comano
Last post by exevans in Northern Italy on Mar 28, 2018 at 00:45:37

Translating written postcard
Last post by mekanic in Translations on Jan 18, 2018 at 13:58:50

Translating written postcard
Last post by mekanic in Translations on Jan 18, 2018 at 13:53:38

State of the Family Record & Other State Records
Last post by debbiemfit in Northern Italy on Jan 02, 2018 at 23:14:28

Toggle Content Help Support this Site
Please support GentediMareGenealogy
Help us by supporting the future development of this site, or simply to say thank you.
Toggle Content EStore
Community Forums › General › General Discussion Groups › Comune unable to locate records!

     Forum FAQ   Search   Log in to check your private messages   Login  
Comune unable to locate records!
Want to share something new or just have fun? You can do that here.

Post new topic   Reply to topic    Forum Index General Discussion Groups Printer Friendly Page

View previous topic :: View next topic  
Author Message
lilbees
V.I.P.
V.I.P.


Joined: Nov 21, 2007
Posts: 754
Location: Georgia, USA

PostPosted: Thu Jan 15, 2009 11:45 am    Post subject: Comune unable to locate records! Reply with quote

I have recently been in a discussion with a comune who denied any record of my family in their comune.

I had located 5 of the children born in Lercara Friddi on the LDS films and copied them.

After several emails back and forth they still cannot locate anything.

This a.m. I responded with the copies of the Italian birth records I have for those children. I am now waiting for a response. I know the family surname is difficult to discern when looking through records, at least on film. But, never the less I did find them. There are so many ways to write the various letters in the name I can understand their difficulty.

I wanted to have certificates of birth in addition to the film photocopy. I also wanted them to search for any other family records for me.

Have others had a similar problem?

lilbees

_________________
Researching: RESCIGNO, CATALANO, MAGRO, ANGRISANO, CALABRESE, GAGLIO, DE ANGELIS
Back to top
View user's profile Photo Gallery
Eleven
Explorer
Explorer


Joined: Jul 11, 2007
Posts: 959
Location: New York

PostPosted: Thu Jan 15, 2009 12:35 pm    Post subject: Re: Comune unable to locate records! Reply with quote

In my 16 years worth of experience, I found that, nobody looks...the way you look.

I dont know if you can still do this, but when I began to research, you could send to the national archives to search ship passenger lists for you, for free. Once they searched, they would mail you to say if they found the person or not. If you wanted a copy..it was 10 dollars, but they sent you a huge record..very big, size wise.

I would send to have a search done, then go myself to the New York City public library. We went 4 times. In those 4 times, I found all of the people I was looking for. The national archives found one.

I will bet you money, that half of the places I wrote to for documents, that couldnt find them..didnt look the way I would look.

I get the funny feeling, that when we mail to italy..the most they will do is look at the index...and many times, names are omitted there.

They will not search...as far as giving them a span of a few years. You seem to need the exact date.

I think your records are there...you have them right in your hand. But, if those names arent on the index...or if they cant make out the handwriting...thats the kind of reply you will get.

You can try writing to the provincial capitol. I had more luck with them. I was looking for 2 people. They sent me the correct document for one..and 2-3 for the other, because they had the same name.

I guess it could also depend on the person opening your mail...but, when I was dealing with the town..I kept getting the same person..and this person would not search a span of years.
Back to top
View user's profile
lilbees
V.I.P.
V.I.P.


Joined: Nov 21, 2007
Posts: 754
Location: Georgia, USA

PostPosted: Thu Jan 15, 2009 12:43 pm    Post subject: Re: Comune unable to locate records! Reply with quote

What I found in this situation was that after first learning they could find nothing I rented the LDS Films for the years needed. It took quite a bit of time but I eventually found them. To begin with, I did have dates of birth, etc. As it turned out most were off about a year. When I had the copies I did correct my information to reflect the dates on the documents.

I furnished this information including the registry number and they still said they could not find them. We will see, with the actual copies I attached of the records, if they find them and will issue a Certificate of Birth.

I am sure I will hear tomorrow.

As for writing to the provincial capitol, I did not know if that was possible. When I contact the Palermo Archives they referred me to the comune. My understanding is that the Archives will not do a search. You must have fairly complete information. I will stand corrected if I am wrong. Would love to have them search for me.

lilbees

_________________
Researching: RESCIGNO, CATALANO, MAGRO, ANGRISANO, CALABRESE, GAGLIO, DE ANGELIS
Back to top
View user's profile Photo Gallery
Eleven
Explorer
Explorer


Joined: Jul 11, 2007
Posts: 959
Location: New York

PostPosted: Thu Jan 15, 2009 1:26 pm    Post subject: Re: Comune unable to locate records! Reply with quote

I wrote the archives for my great grandfather after I got just an extract from the town and it had parents unknown. At that time, I didnt know that you could request a copy. I thought I would give the provincial capitol (Potenza) a shot. I had the exact date for the birth..and while I was at it, I asked for another record that I had the dates for. I cant even recall why I wanted that one.

They sent me back the copies, which I was so happy to get, because it contained a big notation on the bottom. I didnt even trust my limited Italian reading or a translation program, so I had someone from an Italian group that I belonged to, translate it for me. This woman went line by line, first translating, then explaining what everything meant.

Anyway, I cant say that they did a search...I had the dates, but they did sent me a couple of different copies for the second person. Of course, just one of them was mine. Maybe they saw 2 on the index and just copied both.
Back to top
View user's profile
lilbees
V.I.P.
V.I.P.


Joined: Nov 21, 2007
Posts: 754
Location: Georgia, USA

PostPosted: Thu Jan 15, 2009 2:59 pm    Post subject: Re: Comune unable to locate records! Reply with quote

What you are suggesting I have in deed done as well. At least in most cases. In one case I was looking for a copy of the marriage record which, as it turns out, because of damage to the books, they could not provide. But, I did get me gg grandfather's birth record which they did have. Very greatful for it. So we must all prepare for some nice surprises along with the bad.

lilbees

_________________
Researching: RESCIGNO, CATALANO, MAGRO, ANGRISANO, CALABRESE, GAGLIO, DE ANGELIS
Back to top
View user's profile Photo Gallery
lilbees
V.I.P.
V.I.P.


Joined: Nov 21, 2007
Posts: 754
Location: Georgia, USA

PostPosted: Fri Jan 16, 2009 11:17 am    Post subject: Re: Comune unable to locate records! UPDATE..... Reply with quote

Had good news today from Lercara Friddi.

They were most appreciative of my sending copies of the records I had located on the microfilm from the LDS Library. They were then able to locate the actual records.

The clerk explained that all indexes for a ten year period were missing, 1868 thru 1878. That problem made it very difficult to locate records in that time period. As they have time, they will begin to search for the other birth records I have indicated so that I will have an official copy from the comune. giornale

As explained, it will take them some time but they will be working on it.

I sent a note this a.m. expressing my appreciation with a big smiley and a thank you to the individual. lol

lilbees

PS Always like to give the good with the bad

_________________
Researching: RESCIGNO, CATALANO, MAGRO, ANGRISANO, CALABRESE, GAGLIO, DE ANGELIS
Back to top
View user's profile Photo Gallery
nuccia
Admin
Admin


Joined: Jul 09, 2007
Posts: 4375
Location: Toronto, Ontario, Canada

PostPosted: Fri Jan 16, 2009 3:34 pm    Post subject: Re: Comune unable to locate records! Reply with quote

Good job, lilbees! Keep us posted on what happens. Smile

_________________
nuccia
Italian Surname Database

Calabria Exchange
Back to top
View user's profile Visit poster's website
Eleven
Explorer
Explorer


Joined: Jul 11, 2007
Posts: 959
Location: New York

PostPosted: Fri Jan 16, 2009 4:15 pm    Post subject: Re: Comune unable to locate records! Reply with quote

Thats great!!
Back to top
View user's profile
lilbees
V.I.P.
V.I.P.


Joined: Nov 21, 2007
Posts: 754
Location: Georgia, USA

PostPosted: Fri Jan 16, 2009 4:23 pm    Post subject: Re: Comune unable to locate records! Reply with quote

A little bit of "honey" or encouragement helps. (I hope this works on Roccapiemonte as well. I sent the director a note of appreciation last week for all his hard work on my behalf Wink )

lilbees

_________________
Researching: RESCIGNO, CATALANO, MAGRO, ANGRISANO, CALABRESE, GAGLIO, DE ANGELIS
Back to top
View user's profile Photo Gallery
  Page 1 of 1All times are GMT - 4 Hours

Post new topic   Reply to topic    Forum Index General Discussion Groups Printer Friendly Page

  
 
Jump to:  



You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot vote in polls in this forum
You cannot attach files in this forum
You cannot download files in this forum



Hosted By Site5.com
The logos and trademarks used on this site are the property of Gente di Mare Genealogy.
We are not responsible for comments posted by our users, as they are the opinions of the poster.
Interactive software released under GNU GPL, Code Credits, Privacy Policy
TCD_ItalianGene © Gente di Mare Genealogy